A couple of weeks ago, I posted on the career WAR trend for position players. I may revisit the topic as ideas have popped into my mind (separating power hitters from defensive specialists, etc.), but it was always my intention to discuss the same subject with respect to pitchers. It will be trickier, since the modern era has introduced specialization that is far beyond anything seen on the offensive side. As such, I'll break down pitching by two categories:
1. Starting--I just changed my criteria as I wrote this. I was initially going to include anyone who made at least 20 starts in a season, and had I done that, this would have created a compilation of around 9,000 seasons. I didn't particularly like this for any number of reasons and decided to expand it to ANY start between 1901-2012. This will probably lower the average WAR figures but give a more realistic picture.
2. Relief--I also just changed my criteria as I wrote this, but I'm less sure on this. I was initially going to create two relief categories (closer and middle) and define closer as any season with 10+ saves. I really didn't like that, and understand fully that relief pitching will only really matter beginning around 1975 or so, but I've decided again to widen it and include any pitching season with at least one save. Again, this will likely dilute the values, but it will be across the board. I may run this one also with the 10+ save criteria to see if any differences arise.
STARTING PITCHERS
I've changed my mind again--this chart shows every pitcher who made at least one start in a year from 1901-2012:
This is a two-axis chart, with the number of pitchers who made at least one start at a given age on the left and the average WAR on the right. If you read the previous post on position players referenced above, the age distribution should look very familiar--the number of pitchers peaks at age 25, when about 2500 have made at least one start and begins a rather steady decline. I would absolutely LOVE to have pitch count data for this time frame, but reliable data only goes back to 1988.
The red line is average WAR, and that does something very different than in position players--it gradually increases until somewhere around age 32-33 and then stays at a very steady plateau until around 37. I stop at that age because at that point, the effect I described among position players begins, which is that pitchers at 37 or more aren't pitching because teams need roster spots filled, but because they're effective--if they're not effective, THEY'RE NOT IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES. This is why there's no precipitous drop-off in performance--if there was, they'd simply be released. What is stunning is that gradual increase in performance that begins around 22-23.
I was going to show a second chart, but the story is simply told--of the games these pitchers were in, they started about 60% of games, a number that held remarkably steady through the age. Now I'll show the next chart, which is those seasons in which the pitcher made at least 20 starts:
I didn't do something similar with the position players, which would have been the equivalent of them having to have at least 300 plate appearances or something like that. In effect, I've selected out the best of the best, since a pitcher simply won't make 20 starts if they're not effective. These seasons peak at about the same age and begin the same precipitous decline afterward. The spikes are ages 40 and 45 are the Roger Clemens and Nolan Ryan effects, respectively, with a little love for Warren Spahn as well.
The very same pattern with position players is represented--if a pitcher in his 30s continues to perform, he'll still be pitching, but the numbers suggest that it's not easy to maintain. This is a selection of those 35-year-old pitchers from modern times:
Rk | Player | Year | GS | Age | Tm | G | CG | SHO | W | L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Ryan Dempster | 2012 | 28 | 35 | TOT | 28 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 8 | .600 | 173.0 | 155 | 71 | 65 | 52 | 153 | 3.38 | 125 |
2 | A.J. Burnett | 2012 | 31 | 35 | PIT | 31 | 1 | 1 | 16 | 10 | .615 | 202.1 | 189 | 86 | 79 | 62 | 180 | 3.51 | 106 |
3 | Randy Wolf | 2012 | 26 | 35 | TOT | 30 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 10 | .333 | 157.2 | 196 | 103 | 99 | 52 | 104 | 5.65 | 73 |
4 | Bruce Chen | 2012 | 34 | 35 | KCR | 34 | 0 | 0 | 11 | 14 | .440 | 191.2 | 215 | 114 | 108 | 47 | 140 | 5.07 | 82 |
5 | Bronson Arroyo | 2012 | 32 | 35 | CIN | 32 | 1 | 1 | 12 | 10 | .545 | 202.0 | 209 | 86 | 84 | 35 | 129 | 3.74 | 112 |
6 | Roy Halladay | 2012 | 25 | 35 | PHI | 25 | 0 | 0 | 11 | 8 | .579 | 156.1 | 155 | 78 | 78 | 36 | 132 | 4.49 | 90 |
7 | Carl Pavano | 2011 | 33 | 35 | MIN | 33 | 3 | 1 | 9 | 13 | .409 | 222.0 | 262 | 123 | 106 | 40 | 102 | 4.30 | 94 |
8 | Ted Lilly | 2011 | 33 | 35 | LAD | 33 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 14 | .462 | 192.2 | 172 | 88 | 85 | 51 | 158 | 3.97 | 93 |
9 | Tim Hudson | 2011 | 33 | 35 | ATL | 33 | 1 | 1 | 16 | 10 | .615 | 215.0 | 189 | 86 | 77 | 56 | 158 | 3.22 | 119 |
10 | Kevin Millwood | 2010 | 31 | 35 | BAL | 31 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 16 | .200 | 190.2 | 223 | 116 | 108 | 65 | 132 | 5.10 | 81 |
11 | R.A. Dickey | 2010 | 26 | 35 | NYM | 27 | 2 | 1 | 11 | 9 | .550 | 174.1 | 165 | 62 | 55 | 42 | 104 | 2.84 | 138 |
12 | Chris Carpenter | 2010 | 35 | 35 | STL | 35 | 1 | 0 | 16 | 9 | .640 | 235.0 | 214 | 99 | 84 | 63 | 179 | 3.22 | 120 |
13 | Hiroki Kuroda | 2010 | 31 | 35 | LAD | 31 | 0 | 0 | 11 | 13 | .458 | 196.1 | 180 | 87 | 74 | 48 | 159 | 3.39 | 114 |
14 | Livan Hernandez | 2010 | 33 | 35 | WSN | 33 | 2 | 1 | 10 | 12 | .455 | 211.2 | 216 | 93 | 86 | 64 | 114 | 3.66 | 110 |
15 | Derek Lowe | 2008 | 34 | 35 | LAD | 34 | 1 | 0 | 14 | 11 | .560 | 211.0 | 194 | 84 | 76 | 45 | 147 | 3.24 | 129 |
16 | Andy Pettitte | 2007 | 34 | 35 | NYY | 36 | 0 | 0 | 15 | 9 | .625 | 215.1 | 238 | 106 | 97 | 69 | 141 | 4.05 | 112 |
Not too many power pitchers in that group, but pitchers who were able to use location, guile and experience to have success. It's safe to say that if they weren't successful, they wouldn't be on major league rosters, let alone making 20 or more starts.
17 pitchers made 20 or more starts at the age of 19:
Rk | Player | Year | GS | Tm | G | CG | SHO | W | L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Dwight Gooden | 1984 | 31 | NYM | 31 | 7 | 3 | 17 | 9 | 218.0 | 161 | 72 | 63 | 73 | 276 | 2.60 | 137 |
2 | David Clyde | 1974 | 21 | TEX | 28 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 9 | 117.0 | 129 | 64 | 57 | 47 | 52 | 4.38 | 81 |
3 | Bert Blyleven | 1970 | 25 | MIN | 27 | 5 | 1 | 10 | 9 | 164.0 | 143 | 66 | 58 | 47 | 135 | 3.18 | 119 |
4 | Gary Nolan | 1967 | 32 | CIN | 33 | 8 | 5 | 14 | 8 | 226.2 | 193 | 73 | 65 | 62 | 206 | 2.58 | 147 |
5 | Larry Dierker | 1966 | 28 | HOU | 29 | 8 | 2 | 10 | 8 | 187.0 | 173 | 73 | 66 | 45 | 108 | 3.18 | 108 |
6 | Catfish Hunter | 1965 | 20 | KCA | 32 | 3 | 2 | 8 | 8 | 133.0 | 124 | 68 | 63 | 46 | 82 | 4.26 | 82 |
7 | Wally Bunker | 1964 | 29 | BAL | 29 | 12 | 1 | 19 | 5 | 214.0 | 161 | 72 | 64 | 62 | 96 | 2.69 | 134 |
8 | Ray Sadecki | 1960 | 26 | STL | 26 | 7 | 1 | 9 | 9 | 157.1 | 148 | 76 | 66 | 86 | 95 | 3.78 | 108 |
9 | Milt Pappas | 1958 | 21 | BAL | 31 | 3 | 0 | 10 | 10 | 135.1 | 135 | 67 | 61 | 48 | 72 | 4.06 | 89 |
10 | Mike McCormick | 1958 | 28 | SFG | 42 | 8 | 2 | 11 | 8 | 178.1 | 192 | 103 | 91 | 60 | 82 | 4.59 | 84 |
11 | Curt Simmons | 1948 | 23 | PHI | 31 | 7 | 0 | 7 | 13 | 170.0 | 169 | 110 | 92 | 108 | 86 | 4.87 | 81 |
12 | Hal Newhouser | 1940 | 20 | DET | 28 | 7 | 0 | 9 | 9 | 133.1 | 149 | 81 | 72 | 76 | 89 | 4.86 | 98 |
13 | Bob Feller | 1938 | 36 | CLE | 39 | 20 | 2 | 17 | 11 | 277.2 | 225 | 136 | 126 | 208 | 240 | 4.08 | 113 |
14 | Frank Shellenback | 1918 | 21 | CHW | 28 | 10 | 2 | 9 | 12 | 182.2 | 180 | 77 | 54 | 74 | 47 | 2.66 | 103 |
15 | Pete Schneider | 1915 | 35 | CIN | 48 | 16 | 5 | 14 | 19 | 275.2 | 254 | 110 | 76 | 104 | 108 | 2.48 | 116 |
16 | Ray Keating | 1913 | 21 | NYY | 28 | 9 | 2 | 6 | 12 | 151.1 | 147 | 77 | 54 | 51 | 83 | 3.21 | 93 |
17 | Chief Bender | 1903 | 33 | PHA | 36 | 29 | 2 | 17 | 14 | 270.0 | 239 | 115 | 92 | 65 | 127 | 3.07 | 100 |
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Generated 5/22/2013.
The phenomenon is well-known with NFL running backs that they lose effectiveness right around age 30, but since players enter the NFL at approximately the same age of 22-23, it's entirely possible that there is a NUMBER OF PLAYS wall that players hit, and that the wall sits right at the 30-year mark. It could be that pitchers have a "finite" number of pitches in their arms absent freaks of nature like Nolan Ryan, rubber-armed wonders like Wilbur Wood or simply once-in-a-generation talent like Randy Johnson or Greg Maddux. It's a little-known fact that Hall of Famers become so usually by defying traditional age trends--that's what makes them special.
So what will major league teams do with regard to starting pitching--will they replicate recent trends of locking in good young talent to avoid free agency? In some cases this is happening, which the White Sox doing so over the past couple of years with Chris Sale, John Danks and Gavin Floyd with decidedly mixed results--Sale just missed a start, Danks is scheduled to make his first start in over a year and Floyd is out for the year and potentially done with the Sox--around a combined $25 million commitment that hasn't produced.
It could be that baseball follows the trend with football--draft a running back, ANY running back, run him into the ground for four or five years, reload and go again. The running back has been de-emphasized and big dollar contracts, at least for now, are hard to find. Baseball might do that with pitchers--throw out young pitchers and get what can be had, keep the truly special ones that are able to maintain productivity past the age of 30 (Justin Verlander, Roy Halladay, even though he's clearly on the decline now, same for Cliff Lee, CC Sabathia, etc.). Spend the money on perceived future performance and stay away from the Barry Zito-like contracts that simply will not be repeated going forward. In every generation, there will be a Tom Glavine or Mike Mussina that are able to have long, productive careers with few discernible signs of productivity loss, but they are exceptions.
Generated 5/22/2013.
With very few exceptions (Clyde the obvious one and I know absolutely nothing about those three right after Bob Feller), these are solid-to-Hall of Fame pitchers. This is not unusual--anyone able to perform at that level at that age can be reasonably expected to have a stellar career, but it's a much more certain pattern with hitters than with pitchers.
These are the best seasons by age since 1950--prior to that and the list is dominated by early 20th Century pitchers:
I won't say it definitely, but I suspect that many will be surprised to see Wilbur Wood on this list in two spots--he was part of that iron-man renaissance that briefly arose in the 1970s when pitchers were throwing 275 or more innings. I just read it (again) in Bill James' Historical Abstract, but consider the following table of number of pitchers throwing 275 or more innings in a season by decade:
These are the best seasons by age since 1950--prior to that and the list is dominated by early 20th Century pitchers:
I won't say it definitely, but I suspect that many will be surprised to see Wilbur Wood on this list in two spots--he was part of that iron-man renaissance that briefly arose in the 1970s when pitchers were throwing 275 or more innings. I just read it (again) in Bill James' Historical Abstract, but consider the following table of number of pitchers throwing 275 or more innings in a season by decade:
The phenomenon is well-known with NFL running backs that they lose effectiveness right around age 30, but since players enter the NFL at approximately the same age of 22-23, it's entirely possible that there is a NUMBER OF PLAYS wall that players hit, and that the wall sits right at the 30-year mark. It could be that pitchers have a "finite" number of pitches in their arms absent freaks of nature like Nolan Ryan, rubber-armed wonders like Wilbur Wood or simply once-in-a-generation talent like Randy Johnson or Greg Maddux. It's a little-known fact that Hall of Famers become so usually by defying traditional age trends--that's what makes them special.
So what will major league teams do with regard to starting pitching--will they replicate recent trends of locking in good young talent to avoid free agency? In some cases this is happening, which the White Sox doing so over the past couple of years with Chris Sale, John Danks and Gavin Floyd with decidedly mixed results--Sale just missed a start, Danks is scheduled to make his first start in over a year and Floyd is out for the year and potentially done with the Sox--around a combined $25 million commitment that hasn't produced.
It could be that baseball follows the trend with football--draft a running back, ANY running back, run him into the ground for four or five years, reload and go again. The running back has been de-emphasized and big dollar contracts, at least for now, are hard to find. Baseball might do that with pitchers--throw out young pitchers and get what can be had, keep the truly special ones that are able to maintain productivity past the age of 30 (Justin Verlander, Roy Halladay, even though he's clearly on the decline now, same for Cliff Lee, CC Sabathia, etc.). Spend the money on perceived future performance and stay away from the Barry Zito-like contracts that simply will not be repeated going forward. In every generation, there will be a Tom Glavine or Mike Mussina that are able to have long, productive careers with few discernible signs of productivity loss, but they are exceptions.
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